Delivered-To: ennael1@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.82.164 with SMTP id j4csp94233oay; Tue, 15 May 2012 01:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.98.39 with SMTP id ef7mr27829631wib.21.1337071459409; Tue, 15 May 2012 01:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from alamut.mageia.org (alamut.mageia.org. [212.85.158.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id bb5si6376025wib.34.2012.05.15.01.44.18; Tue, 15 May 2012 01:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org designates 212.85.158.146 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.85.158.146; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org designates 212.85.158.146 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Received: by alamut.mageia.org (Postfix, from userid 486) id C0D6C44637; Tue, 15 May 2012 10:44:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alamut.mageia.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BAD44637 for ; Tue, 15 May 2012 10:44:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mageia.org Authentication-Results: alamut.mageia.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Received: from alamut.mageia.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (alamut.mageia.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTP id DZXHhTQXso7j for ; Tue, 15 May 2012 10:44:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by alamut.mageia.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624D0443BB for ; Tue, 15 May 2012 10:44:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wgbfm10 with SMTP id fm10so6194255wgb.34 for ; Tue, 15 May 2012 01:44:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6WGQ0SZyaYR1m6zidsk06RbqT51imLdu3P+CY560dds=; b=e+hw9uoPbtIRstQCfRPmGNJC8blhKSl9mGCSY1YCL++lLpiEYUd1gL/gJtL5k9ygbT iISoXEoFE1sRfXqVwzeWOw5SrUpLzuwTPnwCkjw9T9owOWtoBbLEktIyBckivYjaZoLv CqbifQ96OibNg9RoPRGSEDuT76NFwqhr03jo6i3p47+fHHCNyctriLD/3eRYjC6Hm+ye 9CM3Gv77b/95OfakfAtnOUMbanRqUDPFca209kdmt4J7wb98JriP3Ecw4vyhmE3z7c6g kyHNRZcvBJpz2/TzZgkvvPO70FhNajVx+pWytmqhPnjRkBpHee8er4cTFKTE3hcI0mMt TzqA== Received: by 10.180.102.9 with SMTP id fk9mr2057175wib.1.1337071108958; Tue, 15 May 2012 01:38:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.13.143 with HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2012 01:37:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FB21289.2060902@gmail.com> <4FB213D7.9050705@googlemail.com> From: "Romain d'Alverny" Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 10:37:58 +0200 Message-ID: To: Oliver Burger Cc: board-private@ml.mageia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [board-private] Another mail from Mandriva X-Loop: board-private@ml.mageia.org X-Sequence: 43 Errors-to: board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: board-private-request@ml.mageia.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Romain d'Alverny wr= ote: > Beware. What's proposed is slightly different: they're not proposing > to change Mageia, but for Mageia representatives to join their > workgroup for a foundation (and the said foundation afterwise). > > So it's more a matter of staying apart from their project with a clear > rationale, than changing Mageia at all: > =A0- if we were to join their foundation, that probably wouldn't change > at all Mageia governance; only weaken its mission and blur the line, > because merging its participation into a separate, parent entity; > =A0- if we were not to deal with their plan here, this would print > Mageia difference some more (because we'll need to explain we wouldn't > join them). And, I must add, I don't think we should join their foundation project, for the following reasons: - Mageia, as a structure, seems much better to us as an independant, inclusive project (to both people and organizations), than something that seems likely to be under a corporate umbrella; - we invested a lot in building Mageia governance already; - we don't have the resources to invest into a new equivalent, duplicate project, because we focus on something else now; Besides, I'm not sure their strategy is very strong (unless they have enough funding fort 2/3 years to see things coming) when they invest on Mageia by using its technology, and invest in a separate, somewhat concurrent community project. Focus of time and resources is usually 101. Or I am missing something. But that doesn't prevent to wish them welcome and good luck.